SACD 'False' message

[shavaugh]

I have a collection of rare SACD discs which have cost me a pretty penny over the years. Needless to say, I would hate to lose or damage them so I openly admit to making copies of the discs to play whilst keeping the original discs safe on the shelf. But since a recent firmware update on my BDP-S590 Blu Ray player I now get a 'False' reading in the LCD display. Does this mean Sony have implemented some DRM that stops me from playing copied disc?

[jumpsuit]

Hi there and welcome to the Community

I'm not an expert in TV / Blu ray players etc but yes your model does have Cinavia

protection.

From wikipedia:

"Cinavia works to prevent copying via the detection of a watermark recorded into the analog audio of media such as theatrical films and Blu-ray discs. Note that the intent is to prevent all copying, both pirate copies and legal copies of one's own content, for example, for format shifting."

[Batfinkk]

I don't think Cinavia is part of the SACD standard as the wiki refers only to Blu-ray and I'd never heard of it being shifted to other formats. Assuming these discs are a few years old, Cinavia relies on watermarking as part of the actual disc image, so likely these discs were produced prior to it being rolled out to Blu-ray anyway. So very unlikely this is Cinavia in my opinion.

[Edited by Nadine1325 to remove links relating to piracy]

[jumpsuit]

Cheers for the input.

If its not some sort of protection I'm wondering if its an error of some sort?

Someone posted a similar problem in the USA forum but no-one posted a solution.

I can't find a reference to 'false' in the manual for your player either.

[shavaugh]

Thanks for replying and confirmed my worst fears. I understand why DRM is essential in some ways but this is not going to work for me. Wish I'd known about this before I updated. I will have to find an alternative player as I won't be buying Sony again.

[Anonymous]

HI there

Before you give up, have you tested the original SACD's - because if they dont work either, you may want to contact Sony directly and report a fault (possibly a firmware fault) as the specs say that SACD is supported.  If they work, and the burnt ones dont, try doing a direct bit-for-bit copy of the disc.

BTW, making copies for your own use is perfect fine

Cheers

[shavaugh]

Hi Quinnicus

I chose 3 of my original SACD discs at random and they play fine. So it must have been something in the firmware update that's stopping the copied ones playing. I appreciate the feedback and advice.

Regards

Shaun

[Anonymous]

Thats ok, I thought it might be worth a shot anyhow. 

[jumpsuit]

D'oh the clue was in the question lol.

Firmware updates can sometimes be 'tempremental'

[Anonymous]

yeah, was wondering if the FW update also disabled all SACD play-back.

One of the features that is needed (and requested) is to roll-back FW updates - especially for if/when it goes wrong.  But I dont see this being implemented unfortunately.